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      <title>Member Forum Closes December 20, 2010. Join the Conversations on The Community!</title>
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        <p>Current content for these forum discussions (the most active posts as of January 1, 2010) is being moved to topic-specific “Discussions” on The Community. You may access this new online resource by using the link below: </p>

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      <title>Discussions are being moved</title>
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        <p>Hello all,<br />
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    <entry>
      <title>What are your &#8220;truths&#8221; in skiing&#63;</title>
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        <p>One of my greatest mentors is Stu Campbell.&nbsp; He would ask me every year&#8230; &#8220;what is your truth this year?&#8221;&nbsp; He always questioned my belief system and made me re-examine it.&nbsp; In doing this I have spent countless hours examining &#8220;my beliefs&#8221;. This process has helped me grow my understanding of skiing as much as anything.&nbsp; <br />
So I would love to start a thread about your skiing truths.<br />
Thanks <br />
Michael Rogan</p>
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      <title>Looking For Mag Article &#8220;A&#8221; Shape</title>
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        <p>Many publishing&#8217;s ago there was an article on the Wedge versus &#8220;A&#8221; shape terminology. I can not find the magazine, probably threw away, and now would like that specific article. If anyone can find and send via email I would appreciate it.</p>

<p>Background - Weekend teaching of new skiers for one hour at our area are many times &#8220;station&#8221; based i.e. MLK and Presidents Day and or large school programs due to the large numbers of 500 plus students. I have found visual hand ques &#8220;Watch me, make an &#8220;A&#8221; (hand ques) with your skis&#8221;,works quite effectively; less explanation, less words, and a visual ques. However several of our instructors are absolutely anchored in the &#8220;Wedge&#8221; terminology and explanations therein which drastically backs up stations for as much as an hour in some instances. I found the article written to be very sensible, actually it may have related to Pizza and French Fries and are we teaching about food, and would like to pass it along for their information. Students, young and old, seem to relate easily to a visual, I call them my hand puppets for fun, as I make and &#8220;A&#8221; with my hands and they do same with their skis. FYI if all works our stations take about seventy-five minutes on average from buckle em to turns around cones including a &#8220;Magic Carpet&#8221; ride.</p>

<p>Thanks,</p>
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    <entry>
      <title>Skiing Concepts for 2009&#45;2010 Season</title>
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        <p>Does anyone know where one can obtain a copy of the PSIA National Alpine Team&#8217;s Skiing Concepts which come out of their early season (in October, I believe) training session at Copper Mountain?</p>
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      <title>Need Exercises to Work on Chronic Sit Back Problem</title>
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        <p>Need help&#8230;I&#8217;ve got two students with chronic sit back. So far only partial successes in getting them forward. I&#8217;ve had them concentrating on pushing their shins into the cuffs of their boots and on keeping hands and poles forward but after two/three turns they&#8217;re right in the back seat again. Pitch of the terrain isn&#8217;t an issue. I&#8217;m looking for additional exercises to help with the problem. Thanks.</p>
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      <title>how to get out of power wedge&#63;</title>
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        <p>Hey there esteemed colleagues - </p>

<p>what is in your bag of tricks to get someone out of the power wedge?&nbsp; What sorts of drills/tricks do you use?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>
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      <title>On the Ball (of the Foot), Featured Letter from Spring 2010 32 Degrees</title>
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        <p><span style="font-size:14px;"><i>Editor&#8217;s Note: The submission that follows appears in the spring 2010 issue of <i>32 Degrees.</i> Please feel free to join the discussion!</i></p>

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<b>On the Ball (of the Foot)</b><br />
Here are just a few comments to add to the article &#8220;Turn Initiation 101: Start with the Ball of the Foot&#8221; (spring 2009) by Patrick Hunter. Modern shaped skis certainly make it a lot easier to carve turns; however, I believe that with novice skiers (Levels 1–4), we still need to spend a fair amount of time concentrating on balancing and rotary movements. </p>

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Even though it&#8217;s nice to explore some edging movements with our students, I don&#8217;t believe we should put a primary focus on applying pressure to the ball of the foot to initiate the turn. Over the years since shaped skis arrived, I&#8217;ve seen far too many instructors work on instant results by having their students initiate the turn with a pressure and edge movement rather than teaching a well-balanced position from which to steer the skis with movements of the legs and feet. When the skier initiates the turn with a steering movement that promotes a controlled, skidded turn, the edges will blend with the turn shape and slope of the hill without forcing a pressure movement to the ski. </p>

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Students may seem in control of the carved ski on the beginner hill, but when they leave the lesson and end up on the green trails with their friends, they find that they don&#8217;t have the skills to control the carved ski. The resulting acceleration and speed can be too much for them to handle.</p>

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I&#8217;d like to also point out that for our intermediate and advanced students, I believe the best movement pattern entails tipping both boots simultaneously while moving the center of mass to the forward and inside of the new turn. A skier who is pressing the ball of the foot of the new outside ski may very easily over-flex the outside ankle and knee, and over-rotate the hip at the beginning of the turn. It is much easier to control the pressure transfer at the beginning of each turn by taking weight off of the new inside ski, rather than applying weight to the new outside ski.</p>

<p><br />
— Larry Dean<br />
Vail, CO</p>



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<i>Author Patrick Hunter responds: Thoughtful and well-reasoned observations, Larry. You think it&#8217;s too much edge too soon, and that the forward weighted stance is a mistake. That was exactly the situation in American ski teaching some 20 years ago when I got started on this kick. At that time, most ski schools were producing poor skiers who stuck to groomed runs only, sat back, and skidded (albeit they were on straight skis that were far too long.) These skiers never reached the &#8220;dynamic parallel level,&#8221; and never would. </p>

<p><br />
I began to experiment with putting my clients on &#8220;very short&#8221; skis. I even started my never-ever privates on snow blades. In a way, it was a return to the Graduated Length Method (GLM). Other schools around the world, I came to find out, were still doing something like this. But the difference from GLM was the idea of adding some edge . . . SOME edge. </p>

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Then the shaped skis arrived. Eureka! The students&#8217; learning curves shot up. Soon, these people were not just making turns on the groomed but happily tackling bumps, powder, and steeps. </p>

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Importantly, to avoid some of the very real problems that you point out, the teacher must maintain a balance. When our school started putting beginners on the 120-centimeter shaped skis, they had problems with students &#8220;railing out.&#8221; Students were getting too much edge for the sidecut on the little skis. More sideslipping was needed early on. Personally, I began to teach the hockey stop to many students on the first day, right after sideslipping. </p>

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But fundamental to all of this work was a more forward stance. I had learned from racing that the amount of forward leverage that could be used was orders of magnitude beyond what I was used to. (Bode Miller was jerking the heelpieces out of his skis!) The most common fault with students is backweighting and rear leverage, concepts that are, of course, instinctive. Honestly, I have yet to see a student who puts his or her weight too far forward.</p>

<p><br />
What I try to keep in mind with the various exercises and drills, including the ones in my article, is they really only serve to nudge the students in a certain direction. That’s where the real &#8220;steering&#8221; takes place.</i></span></p>
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      <title>!! Level 2 instructor going to Steamboat..&amp;nbsp; anybody know someone who can get discounts on lift tickets&#63;</title>
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        <p><span style="font-size:14px;"></span>Hi my name is corey Kendig and I am alevel 2 snowboard instructor.&nbsp; Im going to steamboat CO  for springbreak next week  and was wondering if anybody has any insight  or knows someone who could help me out with lift tickets.&nbsp;  Thanks a ton:)</p>
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      <title>Level 2 Secrets</title>
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        <p>Well I&#8217;ve recently passed my level 1, and I&#8217;m already looking into starting training for Level 2 Part 1. I&#8217;ve read through the exam guides, other topics, etc, but I&#8217;m sure that there are some tasks that appear that weren&#8217;t listed, as I noticed with Level 1. Would anyone be willing to recount what they went through for their 2 days of Part 1 briefly? Thanks !</p>
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